A Thinking Reed

"Man is but a reed, the most feeble thing in nature, but he is a thinking reed" – Blaise Pascal

Is our atheists learning?

Thomas wonders why high profile atheist provocateurs like Richard Dawkins seem to know so little about the religions they criticize and frequently traffic in straw-man arguments. He also excerpts a take down of Dawkins’ latest book by agnostic Thomas Nagel.*

Scientific popularizers like Dawkins often seem to think that their expertise in one field translates into a general expertise about broader philosophical issues. Not that nonspecialists should be forbidden from discussing these things (among other things that would rapidly put most blogs, including this one, out of business), but there is still an obligation to familiarize oneself with the arguments of the field one is wading into.

For instance, a recent interview with Dawkins gave me the impression that he thinks that the history of religious belief is neatly dividable into the pre-Darwin era where most people believed in God based on some version of the argument from design, and a post-Darwin one where theology is shown to be intellectually bankrupt. This evidences a profound ignorance of the history of philosophical theology. If anything, theism has made a remarkable comeback in the last few decades in philosophical circles.

Unfortunately, Dawkins is able to impress people with his status as a member of the high Priesthood of Science. And his bombastic pronouncements drown out more nuanced thinkers like Michael Ruse. Ruse and Nagel, though nonbelievers, recognize that matters aren’t as clear-cut as Dawkins would have them and that well-informed intelligent people are to be found on all sides of the debate.
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*I discussed Nagel’s The Last Word here and here.

5 responses to “Is our atheists learning?”

  1. Interesting Fact: The classic line, “Is our children learning” was said at one of the 2000 primary debates at my dear alma mater, Calvin College.

  2. Lee — Thanks for the plug. I also enjoyed reading your past posts on Nagel’s The Last Word. Like you, I’m comforted that such “nuanced” agnostics exist. Hopefully, Nagel’s review in TNR will gain a wide reading and dampen the impact of Dawkins’ screed.

  3. If Richard Dawkins did not exist, Christians would have to invent him. The cartoon character of the pontificating atheistic scientist who never realizes he’s far out of his depth is such an obvious foil–he can’t help but give us confidence in the intellectual reserves of our tradition. I hope he has many books left in him.

  4. Anonymous Anti-Theist

    You are right in saying that Dawkins is not an expert in theology, but he is an expert in evolutionary science. Since he is a scientist he views the world from the perspective of someone who actually studies the natural world and not just thinks about it. Because Dawkins examines and questions life from a scientific stand point, he sees that religion has impeded on science and secular society where it has no right to do so. Even Socrates said “an unexamined life is not worth living” and Dawkins doesn’t believe religion should impede on the examination of life nor should it be a justification for violence or atrocity like it has since the history of mankind. He simple believes as a evolutionary scientist that religion is irrational, archaic and frankly outdated. One of my favorite quotes from him is:

    “I think that there’s been a historical trend from animism where every tree and every river and every mountain had a spirit, to polytheistic religions where you have Thor, and Wotan, and Apollo and Zeus and things, then a trend towards monotheism (and finally zerotheism or atheism).”
    -Dawkins, Interview: Is Science Killing the Soul?

  5. Thanks for commenting. Two things:

    First, many religious people also don’t believe that “religion should impede on the examination of life” or that it “should be a justification for violence or atrocity.” And, anyway, humans can usually find a justification for these things without religion; science, freedom, democracy, and other noble pursuits have played that role too.

    Second, Dawkins’ account of the history of religion in the quote you provided would be challenged by many anthropologists and students of religion. And even if that were the historical order of progression, it would hardly follow that it’s a logical one.

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