Where does the "there and then" meet the "here and now"?

It’s often said, to the point of being a truism, that American Christianity is obsessed with personal salvation and life after death. But is this really true? Theologian Rowan Greer, in his book Christian Hope and Christian Life, disagrees. He says that, if anything, American Christians have lost their sense of an otherworldly hope, and that this is, in fact, bad, because it’s the hope of another world, a final consummation and redemption, that gives shape and motive to the Christian life. The rest of the book seeks to demonstrate this by showing how “Christian hope and Christian life” interact in the New Testament and in thinkers like Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, John Donne, and Jeremy Taylor. Greer is looking to shed light on the question of how we relate the “there and then” to the “here and now.”

I think Greer’s on to something. On the Left we get Christians who tend to focus on this-worldly politics and dismiss otherworldliness as “pie in the sky by and by.” On the Right, and contrary to popular stereotype, there seems to be just as much a focus on politics (Focus on the Family, “Justice Sunday,” etc.), decrying the evils of popular culture, and/or an emphasis on a kind of Christianized (and I use that term loosely) self-help, enabling you to “live with purpose” and have “your best life now.” Leaving aside the Left Behinders and Pat Robertson types (who often are as focused on politics as anyone else anyway), where in American Christianity is Christian hope actually a lively and important part of present life?

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6 responses to “Where does the "there and then" meet the "here and now"?”

  1. Chris T.

    Leaving aside the Left Behinders and Pat Robertson types (who often are as focused on politics as anyone else anyway), where in American Christianity is Christian hope actually a lively and important part of present life?

    Catholicism? 🙂

    Seriously, though, I’ve encountered a lot of liberal Christians whose religiosity is quite spiritual and contains some kind of eschatological element (whatever that eschatology might be—it’s often somewhat Moltmannian). But they are rarely found outside a sacramental context—Catholics, Orthodox, some Episcopalians and a few Lutherans.

  2. Gaius

    Moltmannian?

    What would that be like?

  3. Chris T.

    http://freedompastor.blogspot.com/2005/11/yup-it-is-true-i-am-moltmannian.html

    The “God has to suffer” notion seems to crop up a whole lot in liberal theology these days (see Walter Brueggemann’s work, for instance), as does Moltmann’s “theology of hope”. I have heard references to both from the pulpit a number of times.

  4. Gaius

    Nice link.

    Didn’t actually speak to the question, though.

    What is a Moltmannian eschatology? For what, according to him, are Christians to hope?

  5. Lee

    I know next to nothing about Moltmann, but here’s an interview with him on the very topic:

    http://www.geocities.com/marc_batko/newcreation.html

  6. jack perry

    It’s often said, to the point of being a truism, that American Christianity is obsessed with personal salvation and life after death. But is this really true?

    Yes. One can be obsessed with something even when one has a completely wrong-headed view of it.

    In fact, having a wrong-headed view of it is probably what contributes to the obsession.

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